Tomás Ryan, Associate Professor at the School of Biochemistry & Immunology, Trinity College Dublin and an Associate of the Trinity College Institute of Neuroscience, talks to Eamon about the failures of government strategy and the potential for a fourth wave.
Naomi O'Leary is Europe Correspondent with the Irish Times and hosts The Irish Passport podcast about Irish culture, history and politics. Originally from Dublin, she has reported from around Europe for some of the world's top news organisations.